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GeoffCPosted - 26 Aug 2018 : 00:04:44
After a great turn out on last year's Roger Albert Clark rally I was hoping to see more of the cars out and about on other events. Not heard or seen any since, so have any of you been rallying or are you all broke after the RAC? - I know it's a costly event!

None going up the hill at the SOC event either which was a shame. Mind you I can't talk my Sonett didn't make it either - the missing master cylinder was my excuse
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RhysNPosted - 15 Sep 2018 : 10:07:58
And we love to see it! (and of course any others.) Outnumber Escorts one day?
ANPPosted - 14 Sep 2018 : 20:54:14
I can't promise to succeed but I'll try and put some photos of our car in action on here. If someone could tell me what to do it may help! Also got some in car Go Pro stuff, again I'm clueless about how to get it on a forum.
Historic stage rallying in the UK is dominated by Escorts, for good reason: they are quick, fun and have a huge industry behind them providing spares. The ability to fix your car quickly after an event is one reason Saabs and other marques aren't seen very much. However we get nothing but praise and encouragement from everyone that sees the Saab on the stages. The organisers and spectators love it. It does make it worthwhile putting in the effort to compete in a Saab.
GeoffCPosted - 12 Sep 2018 : 09:00:04
ANP Good to hear a competitive Saab will be out again and Grizedale is a good choice - good luck!


Road rallying is a good way to start Joe, keeps the costs down and gives you time to see how you like it. Go for it!
joethescootPosted - 11 Sep 2018 : 23:25:00
Geoff and rod .im thinking of trying road rallying first,what do you think?
RhysNPosted - 11 Sep 2018 : 08:13:33
If any of you are needing the best in car safety gear, and yes it does fit in a 96, then an email to me will get a good deal. Not the cheapest, but very very good. rhysnolan307@gmail.com
ANPPosted - 10 Sep 2018 : 21:31:32
Colin and I are planning to do the Grizedale Stages on Dec 8th. The silver Saab has been waiting for gearbox repairs which are nearly sorted now. We did RAC and Grizedale last year but that was enough for the 'box.
joethescootPosted - 06 Sep 2018 : 18:31:26
Thank you both very much
GeoffCPosted - 06 Sep 2018 : 14:25:01
As Rod says it depends on which type of events you are planning on doing. If it's forest stages then you will need the rally springs and preferably Bilstein shockers, otherwise just uprated shockers will be enough. If you look at Woodys thread on building his car it has details of sump guard and extra strengthening etc. Re the gearbox if you are building an 1815cc engine then a competition box would really be preferable, both for the close ratios and strength. I never had a gearbox problem in all my years of rallying probably because I was advised by Phil Wilks (the previous owner) always to start off gently - build initial momentum in first get into second as quickly as possible and then boot it - don't scrabble the wheels on the start line. Also, I always used the freewheel so no engine braking load was ever put on the gearbox. Conversations with Chris Partington and Graham MacDonald have confirmed this approach if you want to preserve your gearbox. As for modern regs then your Motor club will help and you will need a copy of the RAC MSA Blue book of rules - most of which will be all new to me so best to read it in there.
DerekPosted - 06 Sep 2018 : 11:58:41
Budget for a gearbox rebuild and then put the same amount aside for doing it again, hopefully later rather than sooner.
RodHuntPosted - 06 Sep 2018 : 09:01:11
Joe, there are many people on here more qualified than me to comment, I last rallied a Saab 40 years ago and last rallied anything 30 years ago. You do not state what sort of rallying you are planning. Presumably historic but it would be well worthwhile to check what sort of modifications are allowed before making any mods. Take a look at the Historic Rally Car Register's website. As Geoff has suggested here, keep it simple, at least to start. The accepted concept always was make sure the brakes and the suspension are up to the task before starting to look for more power. I suspect people more knowledgeable than me will be along to give you advice.
joethescootPosted - 05 Sep 2018 : 20:33:33
Geoff and Rod,I decided to rally my 96,I’m having an engine built by Peter jones racing. I’m a total beginner,any advice on car prep and any prep for me would be greatly appreciated. I’ve got a standard 96 with Ronals on it,. The engine will be 1800+ cc piintp pistons ,flowed heads,cam,38/38 carb and jet exercise exhaust.triple core rad,electronic ignition.the car has a solid shell,good brakes and steering.
What other prep is needed.
I’m joining the welsh border car club.
Many thanks joe
RodHuntPosted - 05 Sep 2018 : 12:41:50
https://ibb.co/esFa0K

Still trying to work out this imgBB! Have come up with a link to photo which is a start.

This is the Haldon MC Mini Monte Rally 1976. Myself and Jeremy Hancock. A snowy Saturday with a slight thaw in the afternoon just enough to give everything a coating of ice when it froze hard as the sun went down. Finally decided to give up with a slipping clutch, a split oil cooler pipe and generally fed up with the conditions. Shame because when Jeremy saw the tesults he reckoned we were in the top six.
GeoffCPosted - 04 Sep 2018 : 10:19:16
Woody - I now use Imgbb.com to host photos, unfortunately I deleted all my account at Photobucket when they tried to put that ridiculous charge on us. Seems like if I had left them they would have come back up again as they seem to have had a change of heart. It's a great pity the forums have been devastated by their actions, the problem for me is finding the time to put the images back up although I agree it would be good for the forums records and worth while doing. Ironically if they had asked for a more reasonable fee I probably would have paid it!

RodHunt - we like to see pics from the days of more affordable rallying (especially Saabs) when the amateur could mix it with the big boys, so if you can give Imgbb a go as it uses a simple drag and drop facility to upload images so easy to use.

I never did much good on stage events - apart from one year on the Lakeland Stages when there was thick snow in the morning and ended up 7th at halfway. Then it thawed so slipped back down although I was still on for a class award but blew that when I rolled on the last stage and dropped 2 mins (cut a snow covered corner and found a tree stump!). My brother went on to win the prize piece of slate as co-driver in another Saab - that bit of slate appears on his mantlepiece every time I visit as it was him that got me to push harder on the last stage by telling me that they were catching us (they weren't!) and was something wrong with PUP!! That was rallymanship in those days so I can laugh about it now!! I blame my co-driver she should have had a better knowledge of our stage times!!!



Road events - I had a good run on but that was also very much due to my navigator Richard Burdon who was a wizard on the maps and knew his stuff. We got some good finishes due to his knowledge and my 100% blind faith in him. I remember one occasion pulling 6200 rpm in top over Osmotherley moor seemingly for miles, him counting down the yumps and telling me junction 90 left after the sixth. This was in thick fog and such was my confidence in him that upon landing after the sixth I braked hard, flicked the car sideways and right in front of me through the fog, the junction opened up and we were back on the throttle. Moments like that you knew you were working as a team and that too was the attraction of rallying - Great fun but couldn't contemplate doing that now!!




RodHuntPosted - 04 Sep 2018 : 08:30:00
Woody - I never got as far as the stages with my Saab. Did a few West Country road rallies c. '75/'76 and had an entry in for a stage event but the gearbox started making strange noises and couldn't get everything back together in time. Since I had had the engine and box out four times in as many months by then I was rapidly running out of money, time and above all patience and decided to sell up. Everybody tells me Saabs are not normally as troublesome as mine was, I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt!

It was a basic car but with Weber 28/36, SAH exhaust, Spaxes all round, SD rear cage and a sumpguard cut down from a Hillman Imp one.

I would put some photos up but can't be doing with this Photobucket stuff.
WoodyPosted - 03 Sep 2018 : 23:57:41
Great pics Geoff. What medium you using now to post? Would be nice to try and repair the broken links from Photobucket.

Rod Hunt - Taking part was the same for me. In a Saab with 1531cc, I was there to enjoy driving the stages and be different. Class wins were possible, never considered overall though did finish in top twenty twice.

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