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andydeans3Posted - 04 Jan 2020 : 16:34:51
Does anyone have a standard SACHS clutch lining available, new or lightly used?

Need it in a hurry.

Can anyone help?

Andy

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro
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VLMPosted - 02 Feb 2020 : 11:26:19
My suggestion is to have the face of the flywheel turned slightly to add clearance for the rivet area. I can check on the depth and diameter of the cut needed if anybody wants the figure. A few people have commented to me that it will weaken the flywheel but I'm not buying it. I have had a number of flywheels lightened rather extensively to the Sport & Rally spec (or at least one of the specs) and the amount cut away during that process is far more extensive. I can measure the thickness of the flywheel at the outer area of the cut if anybody is concerned.
mellePosted - 06 Jan 2020 : 11:21:16
The faulty riveting is easy enough to rectify, so you may want to keep the plate that came out of your car as a spare too. I've thrown out loads over the years, but I'm keeping old friction plates now because I doubt Sachs will do another run any time soon. Here's hoping not all friction specialists have to closed down by the time I've run out of good ones and need them to re-line my worn spares...

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andydeans3Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 09:22:27
I'm going to get the 2nd 4 spring clutch plate re-lined, I've already been in touch with a couple of companies.

-***Change of plan.
Gear box is in, but......

I found a local company that will re-line both of the clutch plates for me, in a couple of days, so I'm having that done. Still hoping to have the old girl thrummming before the end of the week.
Andy

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro
mellePosted - 05 Jan 2020 : 20:04:16
quote:
Originally posted by andydeans3
HOW the hell could SACHS manufacture them like that?
Beats me. I know from other threads that they've been making them like this since about 2010....
My guess would be that the most recent batch they did was in 2010. These exotic clutches are probably produced in a pretty old school way with loads of opportunities for operators to mess things up. Monday morning, the chap at the press looks at the example or the drawing, rivets the first one, compares it to the example or the drawing without noticing his error and does the other 999 the same way. To be honest, I think it's an error that is easily made because the design allows for it. What isn't understandable though, is Sachs's complete lack of customer service. Or perhaps it is, because they've had a monopoly on these clutches for about three decades now...

I fully subscribe to your kind of common sense by the way, get that sucker on the road and enjoy it!

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andydeans3Posted - 05 Jan 2020 : 19:37:34
Melle/Paul.

Sorry wrong use of language, yes Clutch Plate.

With my engine and gearbox out, it had been my intention to change the clutch friction plate. This was before Christmas.
My clutch is a standard SACHS clutch.
I then discovered that Malbrad didn't have any standard SACHS clutch plates on his website, and when I spoke to him he told me that because the SACHS clutches are such a pain, he doesn't stock them any more.
I also told him that I had no issues with my clutch, so his advice was to just leave it.
ie "if it aint broke, don't fix it!"

I drive Freewheel all the time, so only use the clutch to get the car moving.
With the Christmas shut down coming, I knew it would be a pain to get one from somewhere else.

Yesterday I decided it might be prudent to have a look at the state of wear on the clutch if for no other reason than to find out if my clutch is one of the SACHS clutches that are riveted the wrong way round.
Well IT IS one of the wrongly riveted ones, and although there is plenty of friction material still remaining, the rivets are starting to touch the flywheel. A couple of rivet heads are shiny, and laying a steel rule across the top, it's clear that the rivet heads are at the same level as the friction material.

HOW the hell could SACHS manufacture them like that?
Beats me. I know from other threads that they've been making them like this since about 2010....

I have this morning been given an old style SACHS clutch plate, (with only 4 springs - and no rivets), which still has plenty material on it. This from a local 96er in Fife.
He's given me 2 in fact, (2nd one is also an old style 4 spring model) so I'm going to fit the part worn one, and see about getting the other one re-lined.

I know common sense says I should get them both re-lined and then fit a fully refurbished clutch plate, but I really want the car on the road this week for the Angel of North run this coming weekend.

Anyway, I've come to enjoy whipping 96 engines out and in!!!!

Hopefully all will be back in place by tomorrow night.

Andy

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro
mellePosted - 05 Jan 2020 : 14:29:19
What's wrong with the current one?

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V4saab1966Posted - 05 Jan 2020 : 13:40:48
Hi Andy you mean a clutch plate ??

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