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GeoffC
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
507 Posts

Posted - 22 Feb 2017 :  07:32:12 Show Profile Reply with Quote
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A good 1.7 is a thing of wonder, my 1740 would pull nicely in top from 20mph, I think you'd have te doing Motorsport or driving like a tit to break one


Totally agree John, like I said really impressed with the extra torque from the Sonett's 1700 over the 1500. It is only in rallying where I question the long term reliability. A V4 whether 1700 or 1500 will take a lot of punishment and with std valve springs they will bounce long before you get to dangerous revs.
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72sonett3
V4 Fanatic

Spain
269 Posts

Posted - 22 Feb 2017 :  09:17:54 Show Profile Reply with Quote
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Which cars had the 1.7HC as standard?

Some Ford Granada IIs were available with a 73 hp 1.7 V4

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'72 97
'77 96L conv.
'79 96GL (LPG)
'83 900i (LPG)
'95 900SE conv.
'99 9-3T
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3833 Posts

Posted - 22 Feb 2017 :  13:14:31 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I know some Belgian Granadas had a 1.7HC V4 (instead of a V6) for tax reasons (I had one of these in my 96), I've bought 1.7HCs from Transits and allegedly some Capris and Taunuses also had the 1.7HC engine. I've bought HC an LC 1.7s, which both came with single and twin choke carbs. I'm not sure about the logic and I don't know much about Ford cars to be honest...

www.saabv4.com
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
738 Posts

Posted - 22 Feb 2017 :  15:40:54 Show Profile Reply with Quote
http://www.saabveteranernatrollhattan.com/Arkiv/V4-motorn.htm

some good info here
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Derek
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2191 Posts

Posted - 23 Feb 2017 :  13:35:01 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Excellent article with lots of insight. Thanks for the link. Site is actually run for the benefit of "old" Saab personnel and that's great to see.
Melle, I deliberately left my HC question open as I didn't think that Saab had used the 1.7lHC in their cars.
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john-saab
Administrator

United Kingdom
2679 Posts

Posted - 23 Feb 2017 :  13:52:53 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Keep these posts coming. I will gather everything here and add it all to a new post as I think there is much here that people will want to reference in the future.

'73 96 (Vernon),'74 95 (Veronica)plus 4 other 95's and 2 96's
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3833 Posts

Posted - 23 Feb 2017 :  14:21:13 Show Profile Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Derek
Melle, I deliberately left my HC question open as I didn't think that Saab had used the 1.7lHC in their cars.
I think they only used the 1.7HC in the Swedish 1975B Silver Jubilee model (http://www.saabmuseum.com/96v4/my2.html#1975). I wonder why Saab never offered the long stroke engine as an option?



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john-saab
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United Kingdom
2679 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2017 :  20:05:11 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Back to the car. I just noticed that I bought this car exactly 46 years after it was registered in the UK. 17/2/71.

'73 96 (Vernon),'74 95 (Veronica)plus 4 other 95's and 2 96's
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john-saab
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United Kingdom
2679 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2017 :  21:14:43 Show Profile Reply with Quote
3 wings are now off and 1/2 of the underside is stripped. The underseal is coming off in big sheets and the car is remarkably solid. A little frilly in a few places but nothing serious apart from the front of the floor where it meets the firewall. As things move on more is coming off..you know where this is heading?




'73 96 (Vernon),'74 95 (Veronica)plus 4 other 95's and 2 96's
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3833 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2017 :  21:21:49 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Not looking too bad at all John! Are you taking this one to Swedish Day this year?

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john-saab
Administrator

United Kingdom
2679 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2017 :  21:25:13 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I will be there but at the moment I don't know what car. I'm hoping the 2stroke will be ready.

'73 96 (Vernon),'74 95 (Veronica)plus 4 other 95's and 2 96's
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Andyinthegarage
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
361 Posts

Posted - 28 Feb 2017 :  20:13:24 Show Profile Reply with Quote
A thought...as it is the stroke that makes the difference between a 1.5 and a 1.7, wouldn't it be possible to pull a plug, and use a suitably marked wire to get a measure of the stroke while turning the engine over with a spanner on the crank pulley. Then same with a known 1.5?

Surely possible?
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Zagato
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
812 Posts

Posted - 02 Mar 2017 :  13:50:16 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Interesting article showing a limited edition called the 1700S only available in Sweden and in Indian Yellow with a 1700cc engine.

"The info card on the car said there was only 83 Saab 1700S made in 1974 and 1975. But in a Klassiker magazine I have it is stated that between 120 to 150 were made. Anyhow – it’s still a very rare model and presumably as few as two 1700S have been restored to their former glory so far. This one is owned by Anders Jensen.

The cars were standard 96 V4 that were modified and tuned by the Saab competition department in Trollhättan. Following modifications were made by the mechanics at the competition department:
– 1.7 litre engine lightly tuned, 90 hp.
– upgraded chassis
– leather Sport&Rally steering wheel
– tachometer
– aluminium rims (football rims)
– Simons rally exhaust system
– rally stripes

All cars were painted Indian yellow. This model was only available in Sweden".

https://www.saabisti.fi/enthusiasts/saab-96-v4-1700s-1974/#.WLgidxiQGrU



Edited by - Zagato on 02 Mar 2017 18:28:38
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john-saab
Administrator

United Kingdom
2679 Posts

Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  07:25:40 Show Profile Reply with Quote
All 4 wings are off, interior stripped, underseal stripped and it's in amazing condition. It will need some welding but it's no rot-box. Both sills were full of water so they are coming off and being replaced.
I have the decision..will it be sprayed in yellow or the original light grey?

'73 96 (Vernon),'74 95 (Veronica)plus 4 other 95's and 2 96's
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UK_Sub
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2558 Posts

Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  09:18:40 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Decisions, decisions...

Of course originality is key, but yellow will get it noticed and is more fun. There aren't that many grey ones out there though and I actually thought about spraying the pickup in grey.

I guess it depends on how much of the car needs a respray...



Simon
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