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RhysN
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2021 :  08:28:53 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I too have a question!
Is there a level where there has to be a residual amount of fuel in the tank to actually get any pick up?
I'm saying this badly! If there is not enough fuel does that give a problem, more than for example 5 litres needed to even pick up?

stevebod
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Posted - 17 Jan 2021 :  09:56:12 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I think there is a little "sump" where the pick up tube sits in the tank, meaning any remaining fuel should be in there as the level gets low.
I am not sure how much fuel and this assumes the car is level.
Sorry, a vague answer but hopefully someone else will know for sure.
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RhysN
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Posted - 17 Jan 2021 :  12:18:43 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Question is because I have had the tank out and internally cleaned, now no fuel coming through, about4 litres. I'm about to hit the shed and see what I can.
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RhysN
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Posted - 17 Jan 2021 :  13:03:45 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I think I'll fire the guy who put the tank in, and neglected to put the fuel line on at the "olive" joint. Wundumfukka. (Oh that's me)
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chris steeden
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Posted - 18 Jan 2021 :  09:19:52 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Might be worth looking at this earlier post.
http://saab-v4.co.uk/speedball/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2804
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RhysN
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Posted - 18 Jan 2021 :  15:28:09 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Why Chris? I have already had the tank out, and having done a fair few in the last 50 + years of mucking round with cars, boats and motorbikes I have a good cleaning method.
Issues were two fold.
One I hadn't hooked the line back on (Wundum****a was responsible for that)
Two was asking about residual level (Stevebod answered that)
Lines are clear and clean, internally the tank is as good as they come, TBH it was very good when I went into it )
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V4saab1966
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Posted - 19 Jan 2021 :  05:22:46 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hi Rhys I had the same problem once it was the fuel pump try a bottle of fuel under the car straight on to the fuel pump see if the car runs ok that way if it does then that eliminates the fuel pump
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RhysN
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Posted - 19 Jan 2021 :  08:42:39 Show Profile Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V4saab1966
Hi Rhys I had the same problem once it was the fuel pump try a bottle of fuel under the car straight on to the fuel pump see if the car runs ok that way if it does then that eliminates the fuel pump



Thanks, did that.
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V4saab1966
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Posted - 19 Jan 2021 :  19:26:24 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hi Rhys I had the same problem once it was the fuel pump try a bottle of fuel under the car straight on to the fuel pump see if the car runs ok that way if it does then that eliminates the fuel pump
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RhysN
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Posted - 19 Jan 2021 :  19:51:49 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Thanks , did that.
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V4saab1966
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Posted - 20 Jan 2021 :  01:06:45 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Silly one try leaving the fuel cap off the tank filler neck
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EdinburghJoe
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Posted - 22 Jan 2021 :  14:49:56 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Reading this reminds me... I changed the flexible fuel line from the tank to the metal tubing under the rear seat.

Was careful to tighten everything up afterwards, but a smell of petrol builds up in the car when it’s sat for any length of time. That never happened before.

I couldn’t find any obvious leaks, but I suspect the olive joint between the tank itself and the nut that joins to it.

Does anyone have a tip for getting a better seal? PTFE tape maybe?

Joe.
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RhysN
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Posted - 22 Jan 2021 :  17:40:07 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Well, back to my original question, I can confidently say 4 litres is marginal for picking up from the tank on level ground. More fuel problem gone.
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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 22 Jan 2021 :  19:42:54 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Joe.
I think (though I'm not certain), that this is a compression seal, where the force of tightening, squeezes the olive into a chamfered seat. ie the seal is NOT made on the thread, so using PTFE tape is not going to fix the problem properly.
If it's an olive compression seal, the thread on the nut will be parallel, as opposed to tapered.

PTFE tape, and other types of thread seal, only really work on tapered threads, like NPT.
It "may" give a temporary fix, but it'll just come back.

Rhys. Interesting to know that the "dead volume" in these tanks is as much as 4 litres. That's nearly 30 miles of driving. Had I to guess, I'd have guessed 1 or 2 litres.

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Edited by - andydeans3 on 22 Jan 2021 21:48:22
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