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andydeans3
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2021 :  12:58:36 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Is it possible to have worn rear brakes drums re-sleeved, ie the same principal as re-sleeving a brake master cylinder?

If so, any idea who would provide such a service?

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro

Wonky door
V4 Beginner

United Kingdom
89 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2021 :  18:09:22 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hi Andy,would the old ones take a skim out on a lathe? Just checked the price of new ones
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SAAB96L
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
120 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2021 :  20:26:21 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hello Andy,

Will be worth giving "J&E Engineering Services" located in Rossendale, Lancashire a call and speak with Jonathan; 01706.222.662
http://www.jandeengineering.co.uk/machining.html

An excellent engineer and engineering company - certainly light years ahead of anything else out there, with prices still being on Planet Earth !!

Regards.

Richard.



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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
1544 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2021 :  21:27:57 Show Profile Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wonky door
Hi Andy,would the old ones take a skim out on a lathe? Just checked the price of new ones


Dave
The problem is that skimming it out will make the ID even larger, and it's at max ID now. As I said the adjusters almost disappear with standard adjusting wedges.
Now I thought that maybe, they could be skimmed out, then a sleeve shrunk in, to bring the ID back within spec.
I was just wondering if anyone had ever done this.

New ones are available at 1750 kroner each(around 150) from the SAAB Klubben in Sweden, but because of Brexit, and all the new bureaucracy and processes, they can't ship to the UK any more.
Brexit just continues to give!


1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro
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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
1544 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2021 :  21:30:12 Show Profile Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SAAB96L
Hello Andy,

Will be worth giving "J&E Engineering Services" located in Rossendale, Lancashire a call and speak with Jonathan; 01706.222.662
http://www.jandeengineering.co.uk/machining.html

An excellent engineer and engineering company - certainly light years ahead of anything else out there, with prices still being on Planet Earth !!

Regards.

Richard.






Thanks for the lead Richard.

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro
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melle
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United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2021 :  09:09:21 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Years ago I skimmed a set and added a blob of weld to the brake shoe carriers to compensate for the increased diameter, worked just fine. If you go the refurb route I would look into spray welding rather than relining with a sleeve.

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christophe
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France
123 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2021 :  19:51:18 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Back in the days, you could get extra thick linings to compensate for oversize drums, or use shims between the lining and the shoe. This might be a simpler route.
Nice evening to all.
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GeoffC
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United Kingdom
495 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2021 :  20:26:50 Show Profile Reply with Quote
The Swedish Sonett Club still ships to the UK with no problems. They saved me when the mot man smashed my side window so not sure why anybody else can't.
Somebody must have some spare which are less worn than yours. I think I have one kicking around but I can ask around my old rallying mates if you like, must be some decent ones left in the Uk

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Derek
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United Kingdom
2039 Posts

Posted - 28 May 2021 :  11:26:12 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Perhaps you could consider going the same route as Anttik and use the Megane drums. Only 20 euros each. The bearing adaptor sleeves have to be made up to take another set of bearings but even doing that might still make the whole job cheaper.
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melle
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United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 28 May 2021 :  12:09:38 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Good thinking, but since Megane drums have a different pcd, Andy would also need different wheels, or the drums need to be modified to suit the Saab wheels.

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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
1544 Posts

Posted - 29 May 2021 :  09:56:49 Show Profile Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffC
The Swedish Sonett Club still ships to the UK with no problems. They saved me when the mot man smashed my side window so not sure why anybody else can't.
Somebody must have some spare which are less worn than yours. I think I have one kicking around but I can ask around my old rallying mates if you like, must be some decent ones left in the Uk




I really want to replace the drums.
Not sure how the Sonett Club can ship to individual sellers in the UK. There are most certainly new rules in place for EU sellers, (Like . the SAAB Klubben), selling to individuals in the UK.

There are no issues for EU companies selling to UK businesses.
It would also seem however, that this is not in fact as a result of Brexit.

Similar rules are coming in, from July, for sales between EU countries.
I think it's part of a world wide attempt to stop internet sellers, avoiding VAT.
One thing is sure, it's complicated!



1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro

Edited by - andydeans3 on 29 May 2021 09:57:37
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AnttiK
V4 Beginner

Finland
68 Posts

Posted - 29 May 2021 :  13:15:28 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Looks like Skandix does not have those in stock at the moment, but they promise will be in stock on 11/06/2021. 208/pcs.

https://www.skandix.de/en/spare-parts/brakes/drum-brake/brake-drum-rear-axle/1028124/

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SAAB96L
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
120 Posts

Posted - 29 May 2021 :  20:08:24 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hello Andy,

I spoke with Jonathan at J&E Engineering Services yesterday, about your enquiry amongst other things.

Bottom line it's fraught with danger and should not be attempted; finding a replacement drum(s) is the sound alternative.

Hope that assists ??

Regards.

Richard.
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 29 May 2021 :  20:19:15 Show Profile Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SAAB96L
Bottom line it's fraught with danger and should not be attempted
I wonder if there's a technical argument for this, or if it's an insurance/ liability issue?

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SAAB96L
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
120 Posts

Posted - 29 May 2021 :  20:48:44 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hello Melle,

Both.

Regards.

Richard.
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
3386 Posts

Posted - 29 May 2021 :  20:58:25 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Curious to hear more about the technical argument.

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