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Drew B
V4 Beginner

Australia
50 Posts

Posted - 19 Aug 2021 :  05:24:05 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hi all,

I havent posted on here for quite a while - been busy working on other (less reliable) Saabs!

I recently purchased a 1973 96V4 which has had a small engine bay fire. Mostly just superficial damage with some melted plastics, but the engine wiring harness forward of the fuse box has been affected.

My question is whether the engine harness back to the fuse box is a separate section, or is it all part of the one loom? If its the latter, anyone know a source for a good used loom?

I'll post some pics in the 'Projects' section shortly.

Any help much appreciated.

Regards
Drew Bedelph

Edited by - Drew B on 19 Aug 2021 05:24:39

Drew B
V4 Beginner

Australia
50 Posts

Posted - 19 Aug 2021 :  05:36:40 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hopfully the below photos display correctly:

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2knSzkm][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2knSzkm]1973 Saab 96 V4 repair[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191588156@N05/]Drew Bedelph[/url], on Flickr

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2knSzUx][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2knSzUx]1973 Saab 96 V4 repair[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191588156@N05/]Drew Bedelph[/url], on Flickr

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2knNEpE][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2knNEpE]1973 Saab 96 V4 repair[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191588156@N05/]Drew Bedelph[/url], on Flickr

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2knT5JY][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2knT5JY]1973 Saab 96 V4 repair[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191588156@N05/]Drew Bedelph[/url], on Flickr

Edited by - Drew B on 19 Aug 2021 05:53:20
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
610 Posts

Posted - 19 Aug 2021 :  11:44:31 Show Profile Reply with Quote
they do split around the fusebox (there's a couple of large multipin plugs under the dash where the split occurs) so if the dash hasn't been affected you can likely save the back half of the loom

If you can't find a used one, Autosparks do brand new looms, identical to the original

Melle has the wiring diagram on his resource site too

Edited by - green96v4 on 19 Aug 2021 11:45:48
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Derek
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2041 Posts

Posted - 19 Aug 2021 :  13:45:40 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Welcome back Drew! That looks a bit of a challenge. Do you know the source of the fire? Heater fan wiring? You'll crack it though.

Have you still got the "Souvenir"?

Derek
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Drew B
V4 Beginner

Australia
50 Posts

Posted - 19 Aug 2021 :  15:31:30 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Thanks, I'll check that! Do you have a link to the new looms? I really only need the engine bay section at most, I'll check the existing to see exactly what state it's in.

Derek> carburettor inlet fitting, as per usual! Yes, still have the souvenir - and the 2x95s and another 73 96! ;)

Drew
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green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
610 Posts

Posted - 19 Aug 2021 :  18:07:52 Show Profile Reply with Quote
https://www.autosparks.co.uk/saab-96-wiring-harness-set

not cheap but identical to the original (even down to the connectors) and they may split one - when I first ordered mine it was missing from the dash back, so they patterned the rest of the loom from my original and only charged me 50 for the extra!
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SAAB96L
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
122 Posts

Posted - 20 Aug 2021 :  08:35:34 Show Profile Reply with Quote
The wiring is simple on these cars, why not make your own loom using Thinwall Wire with a loom binding such as Tesa fabric tape.

In addition the loom becomes bespoke to your requirements with the option to add additional relays if required.

Regards.

Richard.

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Drew B
V4 Beginner

Australia
50 Posts

Posted - 20 Aug 2021 :  11:31:41 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Richard> I had that thought but, firstly, the condition really dictates a factory harness and, secondly, I'm trying to make life easy on myself!

Does anyone have a photo of the under-dash connectors where it comes apart? I might get out the old microfiche and see if that gives any clues, Failing that I'll just pull the dash and take a look for myself!

Drew
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SAAB96L
V4 Fan

United Kingdom
122 Posts

Posted - 20 Aug 2021 :  15:40:42 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Makes sense, Drew !!

Good luck.

Richard.
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Woody
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2542 Posts

Posted - 23 Aug 2021 :  00:34:54 Show Profile Reply with Quote
http://www.saab-v4.co.uk/speedball/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=643&SearchTerms=Wiring

Welcome back Drew, good to see that you are still enjoying Saabs down-under. What a mess, I have seen this before on a V4 which was a donor of assorted parts for the Troll. The loom wasn't as badly damaged as yours,
and was transferred into the black Saab I used to have.
The loom is made of three cable networks, front, centre and rear, with assorted cable bunches. The V4 parts book is available on the net to download, or I can send you a pdf.
It is such a long time since I assembled the loom into the Troll, that I can't from memory disseminate where the front part finishes. I would have to go study the loom in the Troll.
I can see the Autosparks loom is expensive, and it looks brilliant on green96V4's project. They might be able to sell you the front section. Don't know if any other forum members have bought one.
I shall PM you.

Edited by - Woody on 23 Aug 2021 11:45:44
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Derek
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2041 Posts

Posted - 23 Aug 2021 :  11:37:47 Show Profile Reply with Quote
There must be a car being broken somewhere here in the UK. Anyone? The loom isn't something that is going to be the first thing to be stripped out and may even go with a scrap shell in the end. Postage and cost of item about the same at a guess. i.e. reasonable.
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V4saab1966
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
238 Posts

Posted - 24 Aug 2021 :  01:36:02 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hi drew Ive got a couple of good looms in stock if needed .
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