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SAAB96L
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
518 Posts

Posted - 14 Jan 2022 :  16:27:36 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hello,

Pushing on with the Saab project, with both front wings removed in the last couple of days.

Next week I intend to remove the rear wings and I know these are slightly more challenging. I will be grateful if anyone who has done this or has knowledge of the task, can provide any advice that will make their removal easier / more straightforward.

I do have the Saab WSM, but nothing can replace practical experience.

Thank you in advance.

Richard.

green96v4
V4 Mad

Canada
738 Posts

Posted - 14 Jan 2022 :  16:49:58 Show Profile Reply with Quote
if the bolts haven't been out before, expect them to be very rusty

swearing helps! (and WD40)
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UK_Sub
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2558 Posts

Posted - 14 Jan 2022 :  17:36:17 Show Profile Reply with Quote
A bit of heat might help (be careful with a bare flame around the fuel tank hose!), along with a few taps of a hammer to break any rusted-together threads. You'll probably want to remove the rear wheel to give you more room and prepared to be showered in debris and rust (so wear goggles or a face shield).

Let us know how you get on!
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christophe
V4 Fanatic

France
227 Posts

Posted - 14 Jan 2022 :  20:47:26 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I'd suggest not to tackle this job before applying penetrating fluid daily for a week. You'll get best results with a 50/50 ATF/acetone mix.
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Woody
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2764 Posts

Posted - 15 Jan 2022 :  14:55:21 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Spray penetrating oil through the holes in the boot either side below the rear window. This gets to the bolt threads on the upper side of wing which are screwed in to captive fixings. Spray too under wing below the boot aperture to get to the threads of the pozi-head screws whose heads are visible when boot open. The screws go through clips which are secured to the inner wing.
The forward bolts running down the leading edge of the wing are similar with captive fixings and spray oil by removing the side panels inside the car. Also gives you an opportunity to assess their condition and the metal around them.

Edited by - Woody on 15 Jan 2022 15:05:46
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andydeans3
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 15 Jan 2022 :  18:19:08 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Do you have any idea if they have ever been off before?
If they've been on since the car left the factory, you may be in for a struggle against corroded screws and bolts.
The screws may have hexagon heads on them , or may just be Pozi head screws. Hex head bolts will give a better chance, as it's difficult to get much purchase with a Pozis crewdriver. Being up inside the wings makes access difficult for any sort of impact screwdriver system.
Others have already stated the obvious things about liberally soaking everything in penetrating oil for days.
If you remove the side trims at each end of the rear seat, you should be able to get access there to get penetrating oil in there, onto the forward screws, and the ones running down towards the ground.
If you feel you want to try and apply heat, use a heat gun instead of an open flame.
Finally when you do put them back, install alloy or stainless steel riv nuts, and S/S hex head bolts lathered in grease, and or wax.

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro

Edited by - andydeans3 on 15 Jan 2022 18:20:26
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SAAB96L
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
518 Posts

Posted - 16 Jan 2022 :  17:24:31 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Folks,

Thank you for your comments and advice - always appreciated.

The front wings came off without too much of an issue and I believe they had been removed previously - as for the rear panels, I do not know.
For such operations I always use Plus Gas as that is a purpose made rust breaker, whereas WD40 is purely a water dispersant / lubricant. I have used the ATF / Acetone mix before and that is also effective. A few of the front wing bolts did need some localised heat but nothing of note. One 1x bolt needed the attention of the grinder; all wings will have s/s fixings on refit.

Are any of the rear wing bolts accessed from under the wheel arch ?? I presume that removal of the rear wheels indicates that is the case and looking at the bolt diagram this seems likely. However, I will be grateful if someone can confirm that, please.

Once all the wings are removed, they will be taken back to bare metal.

Again, many thanks.

Richard.





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Dynorog
V4 Fanatic

United Kingdom
250 Posts

Posted - 16 Jan 2022 :  18:32:05 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Yes they are accessed from under wheel arch.Long extension required.
The penetrating oil is a must.
Cheers


Dynorog
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SAAB96L
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
518 Posts

Posted - 19 Jan 2022 :  18:32:24 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Thank you for the additional update - much appreciated.

Does the fuel tank need to be removed before the LH wing is disconnected ?? The car is a 1976 model, but I do not think that has a bearing.

Thank you.

Richard.
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andydeans3
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
2016 Posts

Posted - 19 Jan 2022 :  19:48:50 Show Profile Reply with Quote
No, you don't have to remove the fuel tank in order to remove the left wing.
Just pull back the rubber, on the outside of the fuel filler. Remove 3 small screws, that allow you to remove a steel ring. This allows you to remove the wing, and leave behind the whole fuel filler assembly.

Andy

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo
1991 Nissan Figaro
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SAAB96L
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
518 Posts

Posted - 19 Jan 2022 :  20:33:30 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Thanks, Andy, most useful.

All the best.

Richard.
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elanwannabe
Starting Member

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 20 Jan 2022 :  21:15:32 Show Profile Reply with Quote
SAAB96L:

Take a look at this video. This chap named Ant makes it look so easy. Not fair! He actually doesn't work on the rear fenders until 6:05 of a 7:21 video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8FRoHCL5OA

Check it out.



Stuart from East Tennessee, USA, near The Tail of the Dragon
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