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andydeans3
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Dec 2024 :  13:22:43 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I've just had my ol' blue 96 in for an "Offline" Classic Car Safety test. Picked up on two things:-

Below par handbrake. I went through a lot of trial and tribulations with the handbrake on the green Saab earlier this year. There's a 2 page thread on the subject....
I'll strip, rebuild, and replace the cables, to see if that helps.

Perceptible play in front wheel bearings.

This is what I want to ask about here. I replaced these bearings 3 months, with new bearings bought, I think, from Malbrad, a long time ago.
Any thoughts on why new wheel bearings would have perceptible play?
I have a hydraulic press, and very carefully made sure everything was square, and fully home in terms of the bearings going into their housing. Although the centre nut is the tightest nut on the car, my torque wrench does go up to the required setting. I will check the torque again, but given that they are NOT tapered bearings, not sure if that will make any difference.

Thoughts?



1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
1975 RHD Saab 96
1991 Nissan Figaro

melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
4145 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2024 :  22:49:12 Show Profile Reply with Quote
The quality of Professional Parts Sweden wheel bearings (which they probably are) is just sh¡te. I have a set that I've fortunately never needed yet, but I've heard no end of bad things about them.

www.saabv4.com
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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
2233 Posts

Posted - 14 Dec 2024 :  16:28:33 Show Profile Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by melle
The quality of Professional Parts Sweden wheel bearings (which they probably are) is just sh¡te. I have a set that I've fortunately never needed yet, but I've heard no end of bad things about them.

www.saabv4.com


Melle
I suspected it might be something like this, so WHERE can you buy decent quality front wheel bearings? Like SKF for example.

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
1975 RHD Saab 96
1991 Nissan Figaro
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melle
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United Kingdom
4145 Posts

Posted - 14 Dec 2024 :  17:14:19 Show Profile Reply with Quote
You can't, sadly...

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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
2233 Posts

Posted - 14 Dec 2024 :  17:35:46 Show Profile Reply with Quote
That canny be, someone must make quality bearings. Some of the gearbox bearings I have bought in the past were made by SKF in Austria.

Surely these wheel bearings can't be some odd, unusual size??

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
1975 RHD Saab 96
1991 Nissan Figaro
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
4145 Posts

Posted - 14 Dec 2024 :  20:03:00 Show Profile Reply with Quote
They are indeed an odd, unusual size, and I don't think anyone other than PPS makes them. I've been lucky enough so far I could always grab a used one off the shelf and salvage it when I needed one.

www.saabv4.com

Edited by - melle on 14 Dec 2024 20:04:46
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christophe
V4 Fanatic

France
295 Posts

Posted - 14 Dec 2024 :  21:10:06 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Are those from Skandix the same? Do you have the dimensions? I'd like to check in my catalogs.

Edited by - christophe on 14 Dec 2024 21:12:35
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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
2233 Posts

Posted - 15 Dec 2024 :  16:27:16 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Christopher
I'm going to measure them up, and have a look round some bearing manufacturers. I'll post the dimensions here.



1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
1975 RHD Saab 96
1991 Nissan Figaro
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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
2233 Posts

Posted - 15 Dec 2024 :  17:22:51 Show Profile Reply with Quote
The bearings are as follows:-

Following embossed on the edge-
3306 C3
CODEX

Dimensions- OD 72 mm, ID 29.8 mm,
Thickness 30.4 mm


Simply Bearings seem to do an SKF bearing for £69.
https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p19814/SKF-3306ATN9C3-Double-Row-Angular-Contact-Ball-Bearing-with-Polyamide-Cage-30x72x30.2mm/product_info.html


1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
1975 RHD Saab 96
1991 Nissan Figaro

Edited by - andydeans3 on 15 Dec 2024 17:46:12
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SAAB96L
V4 Mad

United Kingdom
749 Posts

Posted - 15 Dec 2024 :  18:18:26 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hello Andy,

I've used SB on a number of occasions and find their service is fine, hence no issues with SKF which I have used on some classics.

Another company worth considering is RUBIX UK who deal significantly with Timken bearings: https://uk.rubix.com/en/timken/c-1361

Their bearing finder is a useful reference tool:
https://uk.rubix.com/en/rolling-bearings/c-15-15-15

Without a doubt, IMHO, Timken is the ultimate bearing and the company deals with numerous bearing types.

Regards.

Richard.

Edited by - SAAB96L on 15 Dec 2024 18:20:46
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christophe
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France
295 Posts

Posted - 15 Dec 2024 :  20:29:09 Show Profile Reply with Quote
https://www.123roulement.com/roulement-palier/roulement-bille/double-rangee/3306-jtekt?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAmfq6BhAsEiwAX1jsZ2tjB0Gpt3aUT7rfK_39l01f7GO29lOq1dFn3pDzzaj4dddw-6sJ5BoCP9kQAvD_BwE
Looks like this one should do the trick.
I also had a look at my documentation. The C3 suffix means that the bearing has a greater play than normal. But, I don't know if that is right for our application. It would be great to get period references to check this.

Edited by - christophe on 16 Dec 2024 09:54:58
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
4145 Posts

Posted - 16 Dec 2024 :  12:10:34 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Decent quality V4 front wheel bearings have not been available for decades, despite them being advertised here and there. Very keen to hear if anyone manages to buy decent ones somewhere, and I'll immediately get a set too.

Quality grease seals are equally difficult to get, the ones for industrial applications are rated for a much lower rpm than required for cars, and won't last very long: https://www.saab-v4.co.uk/speedball/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38605

www.saabv4.com

Edited by - melle on 16 Dec 2024 12:20:04
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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
2233 Posts

Posted - 16 Dec 2024 :  15:53:56 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Melle.
I'm obviously wrong, but I thought that SKF were a good brand name. I have a couple of new SKF gearbox bearings and they're made in Austria, NOT China....


1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
1975 RHD Saab 96
1991 Nissan Figaro
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
4145 Posts

Posted - 16 Dec 2024 :  16:34:22 Show Profile Reply with Quote
SKF are indeed a good brand name! The problem is that their 233200 bearings have not been available for a long time, even if some sites list them.

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andydeans3
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Dec 2024 :  17:32:35 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Melle
The bearings that came out are 3306 C3. The dimension within a tenth of a milli, are the same as 3306 C3, ie 72 mm OD, 30mm ID and 30.2 mm Wide, or am I missing somehting here?

Are you saying that this SKF bearing is not good for the job?
https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p19814/SKF-3306ATN9C3-Double-Row-Angular-Contact-Ball-Bearing-with-Polyamide-Cage-30x72x30.2mm/product_info.html

Here an SKF bearing is also listed as 233200
https://www.bearingmodel.com/bearing-SKF-233200

1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
1975 RHD Saab 96
1991 Nissan Figaro

Edited by - andydeans3 on 16 Dec 2024 17:49:19
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melle
V4 Guru

United Kingdom
4145 Posts

Posted - 16 Dec 2024 :  18:49:46 Show Profile Reply with Quote
I think that will do the job – if you can indeed get it. I've ordered them several times from different places in the past; they showed as available on the websites, but no one was able to actually supply them.

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