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Alrawli
V4 Fan
United Kingdom
107 Posts |  Posted - 17 Dec 2014 : 20:11:06  
| Thought id start off a project thread to keep track of our latest acquisition.
Named by nieces as Krystal
We traveled up to Banff in early September to pick her up and stopped off at my Grans in Meigle on the way back to Glasgow for the now traditional Saab photo shoot. My grandad was a Saab fanatic and we spent most of our time as kids in and out of 95's, 96's and 99's in various states of repair.
She behaved really well on the drive back down with no major problems.
Now with black wheels.
Generally she is very tidy, theres a few body work issues that need sorting out. Some bubbling paint on the rear drivers side wing and the door bottoms need repainted.
Since September I've been using her almost as a daily driver. Added a DAB radio and hidden parcel shelf speakers to make commuting more entertaining.
Had a few issues with the master cylinder and used one of Johnsaabs rebuild kits and all was well.
Two weeks ago she wouldn't start, no spark, turns out the arm on the points had snapped off. Replaced that and a few other ignition bits and all seems good.
More recently Ive been having problems with crunching gears when changing. Most notably when changing into reverse. Ive rebuilt the slave and bled the system again but still the same issues.
Ive tried the clutch adjustment bolt but cant seem to not crunch when going into reverse.
Been doing a bit of reading and think ill try to add shims to the slave cylinder tomorrow. Oddly there are 4 washers on the bolt side of the slave. Might just be that its a longer than original bolt.
Hope to add more to this thread as I go along.
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Edited by - Alrawli on 17 Dec 2014 20:13:57 |
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James Ranaldi
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
1475 Posts | Posted - 17 Dec 2014 : 20:40:49
| Looking good  
1968 V4, LHD
1984 99 GL
1992 900i Convertible |  |
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Andyinthegarage
V4 Fanatic
United Kingdom
361 Posts | Posted - 17 Dec 2014 : 20:46:38
| Welcome! Great looking car.
Now before you start shimming anything, and assuming you have the clutch float adjustment correct, start by adjusting the position of the steering column. This adjusts the angle at which the gear linkage operates. Nine times out of ten this is the problem and if not, you need to get this right first anyway.
You will need a torch, a 13mm (I think) ring spanner, an articulated spine and a strong neck.
Lying in the floor well, look under the dash and you will find two bolts holding the steering column to its mounting brackets via slotted holes. Loosen them and slide the whole column towards the driver's seat until it stops. Tighten there and test gear selection, then adjust back a bit and try again.
Do all this with the engine warm and ideally after a short run to warm the box too.
Anyone got the appropriate diagram handy?
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melle
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
4145 Posts | Posted - 17 Dec 2014 : 21:17:23
| Nice motor!
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Originally posted by Andyinthegarage
Nine times out of ten this is the problem
I think it's the problem three time out of ten and the other seven are worn release bearing arms. Curing that is an engine out job sadly.
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and if not, you need to get this right first anyway.
Fully agree with this though!
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a 13mm (I think) ring spanner
Not 13 but 1/2"
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Anyone got the appropriate diagram handy?
Here you go:
1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V | |
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Alrawli
V4 Fan
United Kingdom
107 Posts | Posted - 17 Dec 2014 : 21:45:49
| Thanks for the replies
With the engine off gear change is smooth and finds every gear. With the engine running it feels as if the clutch plate isn't disengaging enough when I try to change into reverse. Thats where the gear grinding occurs.
Would adjusting the steering column affect this or does it just adjust gear selection? |
Edited by - Alrawli on 17 Dec 2014 22:08:36 | |
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melle
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
4145 Posts | Posted - 18 Dec 2014 : 19:27:09
| Sounds like a worn release bearing arm.
1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V | |
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Peter96
V4 Fanatic
United Kingdom
290 Posts | Posted - 18 Dec 2014 : 22:12:13
| | That's a nice looking machine. Someone has spent a bit of time tidying that engine bay. Wish mine was as tidy. Enjoy. | |
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Alrawli
V4 Fan
United Kingdom
107 Posts | Posted - 19 Dec 2014 : 00:34:07
| quote:
Sounds like a worn release bearing arm
This is what I've been concerned about. Didn't have a chance to play around today, maybe tomorrow morning if I get some time.
If it is are they easy to come across? I guess it wouldn't be a bad thing to replace the clutch and release bearing at the same time.
There are a couple of scabby spots in the depths of the engine bay which could do with being looked at as well.
Think im doing a good job of convincing myself to pull the engine......... | |
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andydeans3
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
2233 Posts | Posted - 19 Dec 2014 : 02:55:25
| Al
Welcome to the forum.
Nice motor. Under bonnet and interior look very clean. It's obviously been looked after.
Can't really make any more suggestions about your crunching reverse gear. Others have covered the possibilities, I think.
Tell me, where did you fit the radio? In the centre, or to the right of the steering column?
Hope to perhaps see you at the Scottish Christmas meet at Pitlochry, on the 11th of January.
I was the only 96 at last year's Christmas lunch meet.....
Andy (Fife)
1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo |
Edited by - andydeans3 on 19 Dec 2014 02:56:31 | |
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melle
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
4145 Posts | Posted - 19 Dec 2014 : 10:12:37
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If it is are they easy to come across?
I'm afraid not, but they're easy to repair if you can weld. If the holes have become oval stick a piece of the appropriate diameter (depending on the brand release bearing you're using, standard is 12mm) aluminium bar in them, push towards the front of the holes, weld the wear at the rear shut and grind flat.
1970 96V4 "The Devil's Own V4"
1977 95V4 van conversion project
1988 900i 8V | |
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Alrawli
V4 Fan
United Kingdom
107 Posts | Posted - 21 Dec 2014 : 00:14:47
| Thanks Melle. Yes I can weld a bit, might keep my eye out for a spare just in case. Still haven't had a chance to look at it.
Andy that sounds like a good drive. All being well with the clutch I would like to try and make it.
The radio is on the right hand side of the steering column, I had looked at putting it on the other side but its quite well hidden when not in use.
Managed to dig out a few family Saab pics.
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andydeans3
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
2233 Posts | Posted - 21 Dec 2014 : 03:31:39
| Al
You did say that your granddad was a SAAB fanatic, that's plain to see!
If you want to go to the Pitlochry Christmas dinner meet, go across to the UKSAAB site, and you'll find a thread there under "Meetings". Add your name to the list.
Hope to see you there.
Regards
Andy
1978 LHD SAAB 96
1978 MGB Roadster
2008 LHD "Classic" Renault Twingo | |
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James Ranaldi
V4 Guru
United Kingdom
1475 Posts | Posted - 21 Dec 2014 : 12:13:11
| Impressive Saab history
Hope to see you on 11th January.
Cheers
1968 V4, LHD
1984 99 GL
1992 900i Convertible | |
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Alrawli
V4 Fan
United Kingdom
107 Posts | Posted - 24 Dec 2014 : 14:01:02
| Added a 1.5 mm shim to the slave cylinder and gear change has improved dramatically. Probably a little bit of fine adjustment required.
I do have the feeling that the clutch is on borrowed time, the release bearing has been making a noise and generally seems a bit noisy (could this be gearbox?)and with everything else I think for peace of mind ill need to look at replacing everything in the New Year.
will take her for a run and give her a clean. | |
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Alrawli
V4 Fan
United Kingdom
107 Posts | Posted - 30 Dec 2014 : 01:39:17
| Christmas holidays in the borders with plenty of free time and a laptop have got me looking at bits and pieces.
My plan is to use Krystal as a daily driver and this is whats driving me to get the clutch sorted out.
Its running fine just now but I don't have much confidence in how long it will last. With that I've been looking at replacement clutches and braided clutch hoses.
Anyone have a recommendation on where to get a replacement clutch? Ive seen a few SACHS kits on ebay.
There are also a couple of listings for braided clutch hoses again any experience with these or recommendations?
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Zagato
V4 Mad
United Kingdom
816 Posts | Posted - 30 Dec 2014 : 10:42:37
| Great pictures
My clutch is also on it's last legs. You can get an ordinary F&S one or diaphragm clutch from Steve @ Malbrads.
Diaphragm clutches have been advised generally but I have had advice from those in the know to put on an ordinary F&S one. Two 96 mechanics I know advise those over the diaphragms!
I didn't get on with my diaphragm clutch from Highgate, I found out later they were not very good apparently... There seems to be an expectation that all V4 clutches judder BUT they don't if you have a good one fitted correctly! My old Sonnet was the only one that juddered.
Graham MacDonald 01885 482042
Malbrad - 01484 544556
1977 96L Opal Green
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Edited by - Zagato on 30 Dec 2014 10:48:55 | |
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